Fishing without Baits: Executive Loneliness – Breaking the Silence with Nick Jonsson

Written By Marcella Savira Jacinda

The Moment I Stopped Hiding—and Started Leading From the Heart

In this powerful episode, I sit down with Jim Ellermeyer to talk about something that affects more leaders than we realize: executive loneliness.

With Fishing Without Bait reaching over 50,000 monthly listeners and ranked in the top 5% of podcasts worldwide, this is one of my most personal interviews to date. We dive into:

  • My personal experience with isolation and burnout at the peak of success

  • How the 12-step recovery model, active listening, and mindfulness transformed my life

  • Why vulnerability is not weakness, but a leadership strength

  • The journey from chasing pleasure to discovering real joy

This is more than a podcast—it’s a call to action for leaders to show up for themselves and others with compassion, authenticity, and courage.


Published: 2025-07-30

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